tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8514964.post7413881104298514666..comments2024-03-24T03:14:07.639-04:00Comments on [listen]: If you build it . . . (I)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12939881701345686354noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8514964.post-9471065256116864342007-04-28T21:11:00.000-04:002007-04-28T21:11:00.000-04:00Unstructured music is noise in slow motion. It's l...Unstructured music is noise in slow motion. It's like tuning the TV in between channels, and watching the black-white-gray dots run..<BR/>I guess if you look long enough, you start seeing pictures in that too, but my point is that - it's not art!<BR/>Unfortunately, much of 20th century music isn't.Ronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17722166355045498339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8514964.post-51701230101405160722007-04-28T14:19:00.000-04:002007-04-28T14:19:00.000-04:00I agree with all you've said. The only thing I wou...I agree with all you've said. The only thing I would add is that even if a composer were to somehow manage to make a totally unstructured piece, a listener would place her own "jars" in the music, and order it herself.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment, and thanks for reading.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12939881701345686354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8514964.post-63078827239394633842007-04-28T12:20:00.000-04:002007-04-28T12:20:00.000-04:00I don't know if unstructured music is really possi...I don't know if unstructured music is really possible, especially from responsible composers who try to create meaningful musical experiences for the duration of a piece of music. Musical chaos is inherently boring (because most musical chaos ends up sounding the same) and confusing (we go to professionals to try to make sense of it in our normal lives: doctors, psychiatrists, plumbers, fortune tellers). Still, in music that is chaotic and unorganized, the beginning and the end of the chaos itself creates a structure. We know that it will eventually stop.<BR/><BR/>We can also use pretonal ways of organizing pitches, like organum. We can use the all-powerful drone (or we can call it a pedal point) to define sections of a piece of music.<BR/><BR/>There are so many ways of creating organization without relying on tonally-based forms. Repetition can be used in all kinds of ways. "Jars" can be made of "melodic" material, or they can be made of combinations of instrumental or orchestral color. They can be made of rhythmic motives. <BR/><BR/>We can also use instruments and voices in unconventional ways to imitate sounds that we might know (animals, birds, other instruments, power tools, sounds of bodily functions) as "jars."Elaine Finehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248422399226824168noreply@blogger.com